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Ken Poorman's info re: Commander-In-Chief Atlantic Fleet (CINCLANTFLT) . . . Norfolk, VA
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My Orders for transfer from COMCARDIV
FOUR to Flag Administrative Unit (FAU) CINCLANTFLT NORVA: 28 FEBRUARY 1963 TRANSFER NO.538-63 KENNETH R. POORMAN
MU3 FROM COMMANDER CARRIER DIVISION FOUR (Unit Band #194) ONBD USS FORRESTAL (CVA-59) AT NORFOLK VA; TO COMMANDING OFFICER,
FAU, CINCLANTFLT, NAVBASE, NORFOLK, VIRGINIA (Band #85) TRANSFER CODE NO. CVA59/150800/538-63/MAR63/jdv BY J.F. NAGY, LTJG,
USN PERSONNEL OFFICER.
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Here is some info about CINCLANTFLT
with whom I served in 1963 . . .
Unfortunately,
I don't have any personal photos of CINCLANTFLT, because I lost most of my photos in the 1972 flood. A few people have
given me pix of my Navy days, as I had shared a few with them long ago.
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After I left the CINCLANTFLT
Band, the command changed its name to Commander, U.S. Atlantic Fleet. I'm not sure if this is the official patch/logo
for that command. If anyone from the Fleet Forces Command has an old patch or logo from the former COMLANTFLT, would
you please email a copy to me? Thanks!
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Now it changed its name
again, to United States Fleet Forces Command, and the USFF Band uses a modified version of the command logo. I'm sure the band sounds as good as it always has, and I think it's the
largest field band in the Navy. It was very good duty.
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When I was with CINCLANTFLT,
he was also Supreme Allied Commander Atlantic (SACLANT). There was a change of command when I went there, and ADM Harold
Page Smith relieved ADM Robert L. Dennison.
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Now I understand that SACLANT
morphed too. Ok, I give up. If you can understand any of this, you should be an Admiral!
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Pix of SACLANT Headquarters . . .
Our Ceremonial Band & Marine Detachment@Colors |
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So what did I like most about working at CINCLANT/SACLANT
- marching down to these flag poles at 0745 every morning for Colors; or tramping around that big grassy field; or rehersals
on the stage/setting up/tearing down; or inspecting the barracks; or taking my whites to the base cleaners; or playing
official gigs, concerts, parades in Norfolk, Christenings at Newport News Shipyard, the O Clubs, the CPO Clubs and other military
clubs in the area; NOT! And the Gedunk didn't even sell beer (I don't think), but they had good burgers. I don't
think I was ever in the chow hall, not even once. Our band room/building was right close to the Gedunk. Mr. Briley,
CWO3 George L. Briley, our bandleader, and the whole band would
be on that side street waiting for me every morning as I raced in from Azalea Garden Apartments in my 56 Dodge Custom Royal,
loaded, and ran up to the drumline. They usually had my drum sitting on the street waiting for me - and I usually
made it right at the last possible minute. I could see Mr. B griting his teeth waiting and the Chief sweating and all
red necked. I don't know why Mr. B tolerated me like that, he was usually very tough on everyone, even the Chief.
He had sent more than one guy over to the Marine Barracks for a little special training, Ha. I rememer the first day
I met him. My hat back on my head, my shoes unshined, and the sleeves rolled up on my tailored dress blues with the
bright silky mermaid inside one sleeve cuff, and the brightly colored dragon on the other. Totally salty, un-squared
away - Ha - just off a 9 month cruise - a true "horned" shellback! I thought the Chief was
going to have a stroke when I walked in to Mr. B's office to report for duty. I'm sorry Mr. B. (After a tour with
me, his invitation to reenlist might have been just a little half-hearted . . . Ha.)
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George L. Briley, Bandleader
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My Dental Card |
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Speaking of my old Dodge, here's one like it, same
color, but mine was a four door. This was the best car I've ever had. It was heavy, tight, quiet, smooth riding,
big engine, power windows; I loved it! But . . . I smoked in those days . . .and one day, someone came to my door at
Azalea Gardens, Caernarvon Drive (Robin Hood Drive now), and asked if the red and black Dodge was mine. I said
yep, and he said "it's on fire." Well, it burned to a crisp. By the time the fire company put it out,
it was totalled. Bummer. Apparently on the way home from CINCLANTFLT, I threw a cig out the window on Military
Highway, and it blew in the open back window. I loved that car. Got it from Adam Dickey Dodge in Lock Haven, Pa.
Dad picked it out for me. He was smarter about such things. I have picked some serious lemons on my own.
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So there is no more CINCLANTFLT
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Now my old CINCLANTFLT Band is the U.S. Fleet Forces Band . . .
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Since I don't have any personal photos of my days at CINCLANT/SACLANT, I'll put a few Navy file photos
of the band here. I have to say I did enjoy doing colors when we could play a Sousa March on the way down the street.
We had a good drum line. Made you want to fight, the hairs stood at attention, you can't beat a good Sousa March!
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Sempre Fidelis by The Marine Band
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I was just remembering when I saw
these pix, that when I first went to CINCLANT/SACLANT, I was surprised to see the number of foreign officers and troops.
It was hard figuring out who to salute. You sometimes couldn't tell a foreign Sergeant from an Officer. An officer
chewed me out once for not saluting. Ha. Very confusing. There were a lot of ceremonies around these flagpoles
- but we went to other bases and towns for ceremonies and parades too.
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Check out the Band's social
sites →
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PAST
COMMANDERS IN CHIEF, U.S. ATLANTIC FLEET | Rear Admiral Robley D. Evans Mar 1905-May 1908 | Rear Admiral Charles S. Sperry May 1908-Mar
1909 | Rear Admiral Seaton Schroeder Mar 1909-Jun 1911 | Rear Admiral Hugo W. Osterhaus Jun 1911-Jan
1913 | Rear Admiral Charles J. Badger Jan 1913-Sep 1914 | Rear Admiral (promoted to Admiral in 1915)
Frank F. Fletcher Sep 1914-Jun 1916 | Admiral Henry T. Mayo Jun 1916-Jul 1919 | Admiral Henry B. Wilson
Jul 1919-Jun 1921 | Admiral Hilary P. Jones Jun 1921-Dec 1922 |
History shows a
continuation of the title Commander in Chief, Atlantic Fleet, until late 1922 when the title Commander Scouting Force was
used. No further utilization of the title was made until 1 February 1941, when the United States Fleet was reorganized to
form the U.S. Atlantic, U.S. Pacific and U.S. Asiatic Fleets, each with a four-star commander in chief.
Admiral
Ernest J. King 01 Feb 1941-30 Dec 1941 | Admiral Royal E. Ingersoll
30 Dec 1941-15 Nov 1944 | Admiral Jonas H. Ingram 15 Nov 1944-26 Sep
1946 | Admiral Marc A. Mitscher 26 Sep 1946-03 Feb 1947 | Admiral
William H.P. Blandy * 03 Feb 1947-01 Feb 1950 | Admiral William M. Fechteler * 01 Feb
1950-15 Aug 1951 | Admiral Lynde D. McCormick ** 15 Aug 1951-12 Apr 1954 | Admiral
Jerauld Wright ** 12 Apr 1954-28 Feb 1960 | Admiral Robert L. Dennison ** 28 Feb
1960-30 Apr 1963 | Admiral Harold P. Smith ** 30 Apr 1963-30 Apr 1965 | Admiral
Thomas H. Moorer ** 30 Apr 1965-17 Jun 1967 | Admiral Ephraim P. Holmes ** 17 Jun
1967-30 Sep 1970 | Admiral Charles K. Duncan ** 30 Sep 1970-31 Oct 1972 | Admiral
Ralph W. Cousins ** 31 Oct 1972-30 May 1975 | Admiral Isaac C. Kidd, Jr. ** 30 May
1975-30 Sep 1978 | Admiral Harry D. Train, II ** 30 Sep 1978-30 Sep 1982 | Admiral
Wesley L. McDonald ** 30 Sep 1982-04 Oct 1985 | Admiral Carlisle A. H. Trost *** 04
Oct 1985-30 Jun 1986 | Admiral Frank B. Kelso, II *** 30 Jun 1986-04 Nov 1988 | Admiral
Powell F. Carter, Jr. 04 Nov 1988-31 Jan 1991 | Admiral Paul David Miller 31 Jan 1991-13
Jul 1992 | Admiral Henry H. Mauz, Jr. 13 Jul 1992-05 Oct 1994 | Admiral
William J. Flanagan, Jr. 05 Oct 1994-20 Dec 1996 | Admiral J. Paul Reason 20
Dec 1996 -17 Sep 1999 | Admiral Vern Clark 17 Sep 1999 - 23 June 2000 | Admiral
Robert J. Natter # 23 June 2000 - 24 Oct 2002 |
The title of
Commander in Chief, U.S. Atlantic Fleet was in continuous use from February 1941 through 24 October 2002. In October 2002,
Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld directed that the title of "Commander in Chief" be reserved solely for the
President of the United States. In a message to Naval Commanders in Chief, the Chief of Naval Operations directed a change
of title to that of "Commander." Accordingly, on 24 October 2002 the title of Commander in Chief was discontinued
and the title of Commander, U.S. Atlantic Fleet was established. PAST COMMANDERS, U.S. FLEET FORCES COMMAND COMMANDERS,
U.S. ATLANTIC FLEET | Admiral Robert J. Natter 24 Oct 2002
- 3 Oct 2003 | Admiral William J. Fallon 3 Oct 2003 - 18 Feb 2005 | Admiral John B. Nathman 18 Feb 2005 - 22 May 2006 |
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* In addition, served as Commander in Chief, U.S. Atlantic
Command. ** In
addition, served as Commander in Chief, U.S. Atlantic Command, and Supreme Allied Commander, Atlantic (a NATO post). *** In addition, served as Deputy Commander in Chief, U.S. Atlantic Command. ADM
Kelso relinquished this position on 16 Sep 86 # In addition, as of 1 October 2002, served as Commander,
Fleet Forces Command.
PAST COMMANDERS, U.S. FLEET FORCES COMMAND | Admiral
John B. Nathman 23 May 2006 - 16 May 2007 | Admiral
Gary Roughead 17 May 2007 - 28 Sep 2007 | Admiral Jonathan W. Greenert 29 Sep
2007 - 23 July 2009 | Admiral John C. Harvey, Jr. - 24 July 2009 to 14 Sep 2012 | Admiral William E. Gortney - 14 Sep 2012 to
Present |
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NOTE: The Scouting Fleet
established in 1922 from CINCLANTFLT, was later renamed the Scouting Force. This fleet consisted
mainly of older battleships and initially operated in the Atlantic.
In 1931, it was redesignated as the "Scouting Force." At this time, it consisted of the remaining cruisers and destroyers
that were not with the Battle Force and a "Training Squadron" of three
old battleships and eight destroyers. This force operated exclusively in the Atlantic and Caribbean Sea. In 1932, the force
was moved to the Pacific. In 1940 it survived the division of the Fleet into the U.S.
Pacific Fleet and the Atlantic Fleet, and served in the early part of World
War II as an umbrella command for task forces.
Commanders John
D. McDonald (1922 – 1923) Newton A. McCully (1923 –
1924) Josiah S. McKean (1924 – ?) Ashley
H. Robertson (1927 – ?) Adolphus Andrews (circa 1939)
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Here are links to some of my military band pages . . .
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